Using Ayurveda to Set Up a Harmonious Home

Uncategorized Jan 25, 2021
My guest today is going to come at the question of how to design our homes from a very different perspective than what you're used to hearing on this show.  And actually, you may have noticed that one week, I'll have one person who is passionate about living minimally and urging us to paint everything white, and then the next week, I'll have someone on who is all about color, the more the better.  My suggestion to you is to always go with the ideas and advice that resonates with you the most.  There's no one right way.  And today, we'll hear yet another perspective from my guest, Susan Weis Bohlen.  She's not a designer.  She's a chef and author and practitioner of Ayurveda, an ancient Indian holistic approach to life.  Susan gives us a quick intro to the basics of Ayurdeva and then we talk about applying Ayurvedic principles to our homes.  
 Episode Transcript:
Hello. And welcome back to the Style Matters Podcast brought to you by little yellow car. Ouch. I'm Zandra your host. And I am so glad you're here. You're listening to a show that is all about developing your signature style in your home and connecting it to the life that you want to create. My guest today is going to come at the question of how to design our homes from a very different perspective than what you're used to hearing on the show.

And actually, you may have noticed that one week I'll have one person who is passionate about living minimally and urging us to paint everything white. And then the next week I'll have someone who is all about color. The more, the better I have different designers on the show, so that you get to choose which ideas and advice resonates with you. The most,

there is no one right way, and today we'll hear yet another perspective from my guest, Susan Weiss Bolan. She's not a designer. She's a chef and author and practitioner of IRA Veda, an ancient Indian holistic approach to life. Susan gives us a quick intro into the basics of IRA Veda. And then we talk about applying Ayurvedic principles to our homes. Now you may have seen this word in different places,

maybe in the titles of books or related to yoga or to retreat centers or some kind of healing practice. And if you're like me, you've probably been pronouncing it wrong all this time. So throughout the episode, I think I pronounce it. Are you Veda, which is totally wrong. And if you actually look at how it's spelled it's, it's, it's pronounced a little bit more phonetically than I was thinking.

So again, it is I, your Vedic principles or I, your Veda. So if you're having trouble like me, I hope maybe by looking at how it's spelled, which is a Y U R V E D a, then you will be able to start pronouncing it correctly. Like I am finally able to do all right, here we go with Susan Weiss,

Bolan, Susan wiser, Boleyn. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I was, Zandra so happy to be with you. Good, good. Well, from what I've read about you, you have lived a very full life with a lot of growth, both personally and professionally. And I just absolutely love hearing from people who have taken that time to create,

to kind of figure out who they are and create a fulfilling life by also embracing the entire spectrum from good to bad and joy and gratitude and sorrow and scarcity and all of the things that come up in our lives that shape who we are. And in reading your story and looking through your website, and you've written a couple of books. I mean, I just think it's going to be a very rich conversation.

And so I would like to start with your story if okay. Sure. Which work well. Right. How did let, let's kind of give us the, the journey that you had before you, right. When you started, let me get this right, right. When you started, are you Veda practice and becoming a practitioner because there's a lot going on up until that point.

Yeah. Oh, it's so true though. Thank you for like outlining my life like that. I, I loved hearing that I'm 57 and, and, but I had to see, even before I was 35, I feel like I lived such an amazing adventurous life and it's just continued. It's just in my blood, I guess. But when I was in my mid forties,

early forties, I opened a bookstore in Baltimore. Just say, that's actually my, my secret retirement dream. Although it's probably so much work that maybe you shouldn't wait until retirement, but I would love to be a bookstore owner. Okay. Yeah. Tell anyone. No, I don't. I will delete it, but it's, it is a fantastic thing to do.

It's an enormous amount of energy and it's a business, it's a business. And so I learned a lot from that, but I opened it, I think when I was 41 or 42, I'd had a career in public relations as a journalist, working at an embassy in Washington DC and the press office. And I was, I lived in Israel for a decade and did a lot of really fun things over there.

And when I came back to America, I worked in PR and marketing and then through a series of events that decided I really wanted to open a bookstore. And so, you know, being me, I was like, okay, I'll open a bookstore. I mean, like, right. Like, why not? We'll just jump in. Yeah. We'll do this for a decade.

See how that goes. So, so I did, and it was great. It was really beautiful called breathe books, like, like eat, sleep and breathe books. And it really was a fantastic little store, lots of events, classes, and workshops and amazing people came in. And, and I, I just have to say my husband to be walked in and then I married him.

So that was awesome. Oh, that's such a romantic story. I met my husband in a bookstore and I was thinking that sounds like a movie. Okay. Oh, it's the best story. It's all, you know, it was 11 going on 12 years ago now. So that was wonderful. But while I had the bookstore, I, I just started to feel like a little bit low energy.

I'd focused. I'd had extra weight on for like a long period of time and really never had success losing weight. And I just felt like I needed to do something kind of almost drastic to just like, help me get like, Oh, like get moving. Like, let's get this weight off. I think I weighed over 220 pounds at the time.

And, but I, I, it wasn't holding me back really from anything. Yeah. But it was just too much. And so that was a 2007 and I had an Ayurvedic section in my bookstore and my bookstore was a new age bookstore books on yoga and meditation, vegetarian eating crystals angels, and Roman therapy, you know, that whole kind of metaphysical thing.

And so I, our betas kind of alternative medicine from India, I maiden science of life. And it was one of the first medical systems ever started over five, 6,000 years ago. And I knew that there was a program in IRA beta where you can go have treatments done and you get all the toxins out of your body and then sort of get rejuvenated and you become a new person.

Yeah. And that is like a detox, like a whole, was it a week or a weekend of just really a big old body cleanse, Right. So it's called Puncho karma and two real punchy karmas about three weeks. And this one I did in 10 days at the Chopra center in California. And I also took a class there called perfect health,

which was an introduction to IRS data. And so I just absolutely fell in love with it. I thought everything made sense to me, the Sanskrit made sense, the language of higher beta, I, it was just so logical based on your individual mind body constitution. And I saw where I was feeding myself the wrong types of food and how to change that.

And I just had all these body treatments that pushed all these toxins out of the body. And I had already been meditating and doing yoga for years. So this was like the little piece that was missing. And so I came home after 10 days in California, came back to Baltimore and I just felt like pristine. And I was like, what am I going to put in my mouth?

So I don't want to ruin this. I Know it's like so scared. So I had just great Irv to cookbooks in my store. My favorite, one of my favorite people, who's now a friend of mine and cookbook, author day Morningstar. She wrote the, she wrote the perennial. I read a cookbook called the Irv to cookbook and another one called IRB to cooking for Westerners.

And so I started cooking from her book and it just changed my life. And I, I quickly, I initially lost 30 pounds in like a minute and I lost 80 points of my cholesterol. And I eventually lost about 50 pounds. Well with 60 pounds until COVID. And that was like, that was like 10 years of keeping that off. And now there's like a 10 pound,

you know, thing, but whatever, feel your pain, I have to say COVID 10, But I know how to lose it when I'm ready. I'm not ready to stop eating ice cream yet, but it will come. It will come. But anyway, so I started cooking and then I took classes with Ahmed, Dan Morningstar, and I learned how to be an Ayurvedic chef.

And I got certified the Chopra center to do IRA beta. And it, it just, it really did do everything it was supposed to do. Like it cleaned me out body, mind, and spirit. And I just felt like a new person and so much energy and just like a different outlook on life. For instance, if my husband had walked into the shop a few years before,

I might not have even noticed that he was supposed to be my husband, but then with clear eyes, I saw immediately that that was a man. I was 45 when I met him and I saw, and he was 41 and it was like, Oh, you're it. And, Oh, he's seven when I got married, no red flags, no drama,

no nothing. It's like just pure love, support, you know, everything you really want out of a relationship. And wow. And I thought that you might not exactly, exactly. I saw that because of IRA Veda. So I was hooked and eventually after 10 years of running my shop and I had an aggravated cafe in my store the last few years,

I decided that I just wanted to practice IRB to full-time. And that was six years ago. Yes. And then when I quit my bookstore, when I closed my bookshop, I got a call out of the blue to write a book on IRA Veda. And that was really cool. And that became the aggravated beginner's guide, which is now that came out two years ago and has sold over 30,000 copies.

Congratulations, always crazy. Thank you. And it's available in five languages. And so then I was like, Oh, maybe I really can be a writer. And, and then I got a contract with Simon and Schuster for my second book, which is really great. And it's, I had the hard copy in front of me right now. And it comes out at the,

by the time this podcast airs it'll be available everywhere. Yes, it will. And we will have all of that information on our website of course, with links and all of that. Very exciting. And I just want to say that, you know, you, it sounds like you've been open to things that have been very important, like meeting your husband,

but also the fact that you close the bookstore before you got approached to write a book, which again, it seems perfect because when you're running a bookstore, full-time, you might not have had the time and the energy to actually write a book, You know? Yeah. You know, you have to make space. You just, you totally have to make space in your life for things to happen.

And you know that in your home as well, design wise, and that we'll talk about, but that's where in IRA Veda, I know we're going to talk about this, but the idea of the IRA Vedic or the Vedic functionary is called Vastu Shastra and all about directions, design space color. Well, let's jump into that. So give us the basics.

You have main principles, That kind of thing. So I, our beta is about aligning yourself with nature. It's about living with the seasons about doing seasonal, eating seasonal food, all based on your individual mind, body, constitution, and incense. Great. That's called your dosha. I said D O S H a. And so we have three doses and one,

the first OSHA we call Bata B a T a and Vata is comprised of the elements of Aaron space. So Vata person is kind of airy Spacey on grounded, usually kind of polite Stan, a theorial looking person a little bit distracted, highly creative, but they get easily distracted by like every shiny new object. And you leave a lot of unfinished projects around because they're just off to the next thing.

And also because of being made of in space, they tend to have problems of dryness, like dry hair drive, dry skin, brittle fingernails. So then their intestines are dry and they suffer often from constipation and things like arthritis and so on. So, you know, we have ailments as balanced and imbalances based on access dosha or depleted dosha. So that's the airspace person.

And then the next person is called, picked up P I T T a. And pittas made of the elements of fire and water. And so that person is hot firing, intense, warm, friendly. So when they're balanced, so just have all these great qualities of like a really good leader. And like, you want to follow them out of a burning building cause they know the way to go.

And they're going to tell you, they know how to go, but when they're not balanced, they tend to have problems of excess heat in the body like migraines, rosacea, heartburn, intestinal issues. They can also, when they're really hot overheated, they can be aggressive, critical judgmental kind of nasty. And, and then how does the water play into that particular dosha at the water helps it not spontaneously combust the balance it's the balance.

Okay. Yeah, definitely. If there was no water that poor Pitta cause pit to also sweats a lot. And so that, that water helps to cool them down. And then Kapha dosha is the last one. K a P H a Kafa is comprised of earth and water. So very earthy, grounded, substantial kind of people like the love. She was curvy sensuous kind of folks.

And they're very caring, loving, nurturing in nature. They have a lot of friends, but I, I like to say that not all their friends are good for them sometimes because they're so sweet and caring, they can be taken advantage of. And when they're added balanced, they can be obese and just so much earth and water that became like a,

you know, like mud or brick couch, potato like sequined down. Yeah, absolutely inner dull. They, and they can have issues. Health issues have too much water in the system like sinus problems, bronchitis allergies, fluid buildup, things like that can happen. But so with all of these doses, Vata, Pitta, and Kapha, we balance it by doing the opposite.

So Vata who is ungrounded lightened drive. We want to ground them and have more warm and moist foods, lubrication, Pitta, who's hot. We want to do cooling things. CAPA who's too heavy. We do things to help lighten up and in bus do Shastra the science of design and layout of your home and office and your space, according to Vedic science,

which is where I Veda comes from. It's based. It seems like it's based on these doses because you have a water of the elements I should say. So the, the elements outside of us in nature, what the doses are based on, and it's the same in Vastu of air space, fire, water, and earth. So you had those elements inside your home as,

you know, running water, keep cooking the stove or the fireplace or, you know, toilets. And so we have like all those elements inside the home and said they need to be aligned and balanced as well in order for good health. Hey, so this is so great. And I'm so excited to now move into the part of the conversation that we're going to start connecting our,

your Veda principles to our homes. But, but I'm already just sort of, I'm just really curious about the health aspect and, you know, I mean, I I'm really relating to one of the doses big time, so Can I just get, well, I'm only saying it because you're a really creative person. So I'm thinking that your primary dosha is Vata and your secondary is Pitta.

Interesting. Okay. So I, I, I fully related to Pitta both the good and the bad, But, but what, what it's really making me think is that I want to explore this more and learn more about, about myself and, and all of this stuff. So I'm excited, but let's move on. Yeah. So we're going to talk about how to access the benefits of our,

your Veda all through our homes, but I really want to start or zero in on the kitchen. Okay. And first of all, I know we haven't even talked about this part of your career, but you have a lot of expertise in the kitchen. Yeah. But I've been wanting to do an episode between how we set up our kitchens in terms of the design,

but also how it's organized, how it's stocked and maybe, maybe even the colors it's you and how it affects our nutritional and health outcomes, because I've always thought that there's a correlation there. I don't fully understand it. And I've tried to try to figure it out on my own just by feel, you know, but I really think you're going to be able to help us a little bit more scientifically understand that connection.

Yeah. Well, I can, I can try, but, but I I'm, my mind is like really going into a lots of really interesting places to hear you talk about the nutritional aspects connected to the design properties of your kitchen, but it makes perfect sense. So I'll, I'll try to weave that into the conversation for sure. But I'll just start with color because you mentioned that and the whole,

like Vastu map of your home, there's, you know, we can go through the different colors and the reasons why, but color is a really huge, important property in Vastu. And a lot of Vastu charts, books, websites, whatever they suggest having your kitchen be white because the food should be the star and the food is so colorful. The food and the spices are beautiful.

And I would add to that even our cookware is beautiful and our dishes can be beautiful. So if we have too many competing colors in the kitchen, it detracts from that beauty. That is so funny because I have always had white dishes for that reason. I'm always drawn to different patterns on dishes and some of them are so beautiful and they look great sort of on your shelves when they're not in use.

But then I always imagined, but what if I put this rock has plate of food together. I really want to be able to see it. And so, and I've never been disappointed by my white plates. Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's great. I, on the other hand have very, very colorful plates color. I love like the old CLICO Italian mugs and dishes that are all these beautiful hand painted colors and the Fiesta ware.

Yes. We were very popular. Yes. Very vintage. Retro. Yeah. I can't think of the name right now, but those casts dire There's stopped. There's a meal Henri. There's a lot of cast iron that's. Oh, and look who say, I mean, That one, the colors of, I mean, I love to cook food in colors,

but the, the spices are, are a lot of where we get our nutrients. So if you have like this white kitchen and then you have this beautiful, the, the equipment we use an I R Veda is very important. And so as spice, Trey and I are made in spice tray is like around 10, that has like six or eight containers in it,

of your spices. And you leave that out on your counter so you can easily access your spices while you're cooking. So imagine you open up the top of that container and you have this gorgeous, you know, saffron color tumeric. And then you have like this powdery light Brown coriander, and then your cardamom in your cumin and your fennel, the green minty of the fennel.

Like you have all these beautiful colors of your spices and how we cook our spices. As we cook them in a little bit of G, which is clarified butter or a good hiking oil. And that brings out all of the essential oils and the healing properties of the spices. And you do that with a beautiful background in your kitchen, but also in an aggravated is very important to have a good exhaust fan exactly for this reason,

because spices tend to burn quickly, but they're very aromatic. So you want to make sure that you have a good exhaust system, but then it's that the different equipment that we put in the kitchen that's going to help us be more efficient in our cooking is really important. So this is so wonderful to me because I do think that food and design are closely related,

or maybe it's just because I love to eat so much. I don't know. Maybe that's not true for everyone, but I also get a lot of inspiration design inspiration from restaurants. And it's the combination of the smells. It's the, the site of the food. It's what peop what what's on the walls. So it's the surrounding too. It's the environment of certain restaurants.

And, and it, it sounds like you're kind of bringing it home to it's your kitchen is the environment in which you are feeding yourself. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. What you're talking about is filling your senses. So when there's the Sanskrit word is injury for senses, and we do look to satisfy our senses with everything so that we don't feel dissatisfied or depleted in a certain place.

So when we do have a beautiful surroundings, when it's uncluttered, when everything is visible and things are easily attainable, we feel, we feel better. And that is why design is so important to our lives because you feel better. You walk into a clutter kitchen where the dishes haven't been done and, and there's, you know, food on the counter,

extinct, the trash cans things. The last thing you want to do is stand there and cook a beautiful nutritious meal for yourself. Yeah. And there's so many directional things involved. So we talk, we can talk about, you know, where to put your pantry, but just in general, if somebody is listening was building a home, they should know that we say the South East corner of the home is a perfect place for a kitchen.

Oh, okay. And why is That? Well, because that direction is ruled by fire element Southeast every direction is ruled by different elements. So that's sort of by fire and you want your home to be in the fire element. Are you in your kitchen? The fire element, because that's where you're creating. What's called Agni, which is agony. The English word ignite comes from agony.

And that's where we ignite our, and we do all the creating of the, of the food that we're going to eat. So you want to make sure to have that heat of the fire there to help you with that food. If for some reason you can't do it in the Southeast, the Northwest direction is also okay. Okay. Southeast is the best direction.

And then it's, so the whole layout of the kitchen is really important. And I don't know how detailed you want me to get Here. It All right. So then we're, we're talking about coming into the kitchen. So when we enter the kitchen, we want to make sure that the kitchen door is either East, North, or West. So another way of saying that is anywhere by itself,

okay. Is the entrance to your kitchen. And you want to try to make the doorway not fall into a corner. And so, as we mentioned in the Southeast corner of the house, so the, the cooking element, the stove should also be in that Southeast corner of your kitchen. It's interesting though, the person using the stove should be facing East.

If you really want to get into this Miss DOE, you should be tasting towards the East. And that is because the sun rises in the East. And so we get that. We get that the, the power of the sun, that heat of the sun helps us to ignite our own processes in cooking. So, so That we, if, if someone is not building a kitchen currently,

they're just living in what they have. Are there other things they can, we can do that are like, I had an old pantry lately, you were talking about the spaces being on the, on the counter. And I wonder if there are other things like that that we could do. Yeah. So we talked about the, using the colors of white can really help to enhance the feeling you have when you're eating your food.

But you could also have other colors in that kitchen to increase your organi and increase your digestive fires, which would be those fire colors, like red, orange, a bright yellow, also green helps to balance things out. And so let's say that you have a pantry door, you might be, you know, just paint that pantry door, one of those colors,

green arts red. So that gets the energy of that into the food that you're having. What about plants? Would that count? Yeah. Yeah. Plants are really good and they clean the air. They just like enhance the air that we breathe, but those grains and, and so on that we're storing in our even utensils, cookery, and so on.

They should be placed in cabinets that are typically, we'd like to have those on the South or West walls of the kitchen. Okay. So we should avoid storing things on the Eastern and Northern walls. So the Eastern, if we store greens and so on, on the Eastern side, that's a hot energy. And so that can deplete the nutrients in the food.

Right. And, but for electrical appliances, I mean, we have some people have so many electrical appliances in the kitchen. First of all, we don't recommend using a microwave at all because, Well, first of all, it doesn't make food taste very good, but it's terrible. Yeah. But I do have one because I reheat things in it.

Well, I would suggest that you get rid of your microwave because it's totally zaps. So food of nutrition of nutrients. Well, I'm gonna have to say my, my microwave is bulky. It takes up a bunch of counter space. Never liked it, but it is, it's a convenience. So I, I'm going to, I'm gonna, I'm going to work on this.

I'm gonna work on letting go, Oh, let it go. We really want to only have the items, electrical appliances and so on that are useful to us. And so, you know, think about that. Like, do you have things on your counter that you're not using? Like, I am totally guilty of this. I hardly ever use my Cuisinart art.

And I only use my NutriBullet really in the spring and summer. And so, but they're like smashed into a corner, but they should be somewhere else when I'm not using them because they occupy the space and it creates clutter in my mind, which can make it hard to be creative in the kitchen. I don't know if it comes from funkshway or Vastu or I just read it somewhere,

but it said that you should have no more than seven electrical appliances or seven items, some sorry, seven items in general, out on your counter at any time. Okay, good. That's good to know. I'm going to, I'm going to take a count when we're done here and see how I, how I fair. This is, this is so fascinating.

And I'd like to expand the conversation a little bit to other centers in the home you, you talk about are, are you Vedic centers? And what does that mean? And, you know, examples, all that kind of stuff. You know, you sort of had this elemental layout of your home in the Southwest is a more earthy corner. The South is a fire corner.

Southeast is wood. And then it goes in that way. But the center of the home is called your<inaudible>, which is where everything should sort of concentrate on the center. If you ever go to a home that's boss, dude, and you'll see that you walk into a door and the doors typically facing the doors, always facing East. You walk into that door and you walk into a huge space and you have the bedrooms and the offices and everything are all along the side.

So you have this beautiful, energetic, usually with a very high ceiling in the center where all the energy of the home can flow from. And so, since that is your earthy center, you want to, it's your center of spiritual health and Keeling is the center of your home. So, you know, it can be, you want to look for blockages.

Like when you walk in, like the house I live in right now, when we walked into the front door, there was a half wall next to the front door. And so that was one of the first things I knocked down. It's like, why do I have a half wall there? Right? Yeah. Got to knock that down. And then if you,

you also, you walk into your front door and there's staircase coming right down to it. Which so many houses have. You have a very little foyer and then a staircase right there. And so that is an invitation for problems because you have the energy of the home. There's no place to cultivate the energy because you come in and it disperses immediately two side rooms at a staircase.

And so down the staircases rushing all the energy right out that front door, the second you open the door, all your good stuff flows. And, and then you have, like I said, nowhere to like to create this center where you're building this, this energetic human space, but don't despair because there are repairs for everything. Okay. Cause I'm like,

I'm already going, Oh my gosh, we have to move. No, you don't have to knock down the whole house. You can do, you can do things like, hang a mirror above your front door or crystals that help to reflect the energy back up the stairs. Yeah. So that's one way you can do a plan. So on either side of the front door will help because that will help to cultivate energy and anything you can do to slow down the flow of energy,

leaving the space. So you want to make sure that you have, well, I should say you want to make sure to have space for negative energy to leave. And so windows is our really good thing for that negative energy, just because it's attracted to the windows, but then you want to be able to let in the good energy and cultivated in each of your spaces.

What about different? I think I read something you said, and you were mentioning that different parts of our home might correlate to different. I don't know what to call them aspects of our life, like wealth and relationships. Yes, Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So, like I said, the center of your home really correlates to your health and wellbeing and spirituality and spirituality.

Yeah. And then we have, so if I'm going to do it by, I actually have to look at a map like the Northwest corner of your house is where we have more, some water elements like outside could be the septic tank there, toilets there and so on. But a guest bedroom is a good place in the Northwest, but a good color for that Northwest would be yellow and green colors,

which support harmony and balance and work with nature. And the yellow increases fun and humor and logic. Like it could be a good place, a good color for like a study or an office, right? The yellow Northeast of your house is really good for meditation room. A balcony is good. There, or porch is good in the Northeast center of your home and the East.

When we come in from the East, we want to make sure we had that open space that leads to the center of the, so we want to make sure to have that light plants space, no clutter when you enter your home. Yeah. Let's talk about the bedroom. So what you want to, there's several things you want to look out though,

to avoid. You want to make sure that your bed, this is very important that the head of your bed should face East or South that's for deep sleep. If that doesn't work, you can try any other combination. Except for North. Remember, we said North was that cooling energy, which can promote good sleep for somebody who runs really, really hot,

but it doesn't help you with at night, we go through this whole metabolic process of digesting all the food, thoughts, emotions, every sensory thing we took in gets digested actually between 10:00 PM and 2:00 AM. Okay. And if we're too cool that doesn't happen. If our head is facing this cool direction, it can, it can impede that process. So,

I mean, we definitely want the room cool at night, like between 60 and 65 degrees is really great for sleep, but the body's been to heat up during that process and we don't want it fighting even more with the directional situation. Okay. And you also really want to make sure that underneath your bed is free of clutter. A lot of these things are the same things in functional way,

but we say that the soul rises and gets rejuvenated and cleanse during the night and it sort of moves around the bed. So if it starts to go under the bed and there's all these boxes and old shoes or all this other stuff is like, where do I go and tell it has no way to cleanse itself locked. It's blocked. And also that energy of the crap under your bed will rise up and disturb your sleep as will the crap in your basement.

Oh, no. Okay. All right. And, and I just want you to know, I am guilty of nearly everything we're talking about. I think about it a lot, you know, Sharing with us the ideal here and what we, what we can work towards. And I do think that I, I just believe, and I believe, I think COVID has taught me this.

I believe that every small thing we do to protect ourselves and keep us safe, or to make our lives happier, richer, better, whatever, they all count. All the, all the small steps counts. It does. And even just having the intention of creating these things is enormous. You know, you might not believe in these things. People might not believe in these,

in the chakra system or the other energies that are emanating from the body, but you know what? I have no idea. And so I'm erring on the side of, yeah, I have an energy body because the world is so mysterious as it is. Why not? I just think Continue to make this connection between how we feel physically and how we're feeling emotionally.

And because I care about design, I care about how our environments in fact affect us as well. So it's kind of pulling it all together. This has been so fascinating. I've really known nothing about any of this stuff. And I've been wanting to talk about this on the show for a long time, but I was waiting for the right person and I have found her.

She is you. Oh, thank you. Yes. I'm, I'm excited. I want to wrap up with my signature question, which is why to Style. Oh, I, you know, you have me thinking about so many different things and yes, I think it matters. And I just think it fills our senses and it makes us feel good.

And if we don't live in a beautiful space, we, I believe that we can't live to our optimal fulfillment. Like you just can't live up to what we want to be. If we're constantly battling with like, Oh, I don't want to see that wall. Oh, I don't want to look at that pile. Oh my God, this color is so drab.

And do you think our home is a reflection of ourselves? And once we embrace it and we don't fight it, then we love it and we live it and it just, we become so much more vibrant by tapping it. Like if you're a beige person tap into your beige, very vibrant with it. Yeah. And if you're a color person don't shy away from it.

Just go for it. I don't know. That's my long-winded area to, yes. Style Matters Susan. This has been so enlightening and really, really fun. Thank you so much for your time. Oh, you're welcome. I think we need to have Vastu part two in the rest of the house. We agree. We're going to keep going with this,

but it's a good start for sure. So I encourage everybody to look into it and see how, what they can create in their own space. Absolutely. And like I said, I'm going to put all of Susan's info on the show notes page. So that's a good starting point and, and we'll keep talking about it some more. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me And that my friends wraps up today's episode.

Thank you so much for all of the reviews you have been leaving about the show over on Apple podcasts. I, it means a lot to me and I can't thank you enough if you haven't had a chance to do that, I would really appreciate it. It does help us keep the show on the air and it helps other people just like you find us.

And that's all I've got for today. I will be back in your earbuds next Monday. Have a good one.


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